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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

874 pointsby lavptoday at 6:34 AM2066 commentsview on HN

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papaver-somnambtoday at 10:59 AM

I recall someone (name escapes me at the moment) defining WW3 as ignition in 5 flashpoints between belligerent groupings: - Eastern Africa esp. Sudan, which we all nearly universally ignore - Israel Iran - Russia and a neighbor which we know today is Ukraine - Pakistan Afghanistan India - China Taiwan Plus Plus

Attributes that distinguish WW3 from previous world wars were IIRC: Contained conflagration, short targeted exchanges, probability of contamination low, material possibility of nuclear escalation. Case in point: North Korea developed nukes without being invaded, and now that they have nukes, other countries are watching and seeing that NK won't be invaded. What lesson do those other countries draw? And what of a world in which many potential belligerents hold nukes? Hiroshima weeps.

I'd like to add an important attribute here: The revolution will be live-streamed, more-or-less. And essentially none of us will know the truth, even the reasons. I predict this fact will not distress many people, such is the state of humanity.

So to the 7 or so decades of stability we and our ancestors enjoyed, here's looking at you, going down me. But Brettonwoods serves the present the least of any time since its creation. Case in point, w.r.t. eastern Africa, the geopolitical bounds of those ~4 countries seems likely meld to a degree. If we are indeed heading into WW3, I expect the world map to be redrawn afterwards, and the only lessons learned is how to win better in future.

And if we are, while disgruntled old geriatrics go at each others throats via their youthful proxies, I greatly prefer the nukes rust in peace.

Reminds me of Blaise Pascal's quote: 'All human evil comes from a single cause, man's inability to sit still in a room.' Aspiration, you gotta take care man, it just might kill ya.

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adverblytoday at 11:23 AM

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

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Arun2009today at 12:17 PM

I am just befuddled by how much of this violence is directly motivated by religious concerns, both on the side of Iran and on the side of Israel and USA.

I have been reading on the topic of shunyata or emptiness in Mahayana Buddhism, and have been uncomfortably observing just how much of the artifacts we take to be real and substantial in the world are just "made up". They don't have an inherent reality of their own except what we attribute to them. And yet, made up stories can have very real consequences in terms human suffering.

It ought to be possible to cut through the layers of reifications and simply defuse much of the strife in the world. And yet, we continue to inflict misery on each other unnecessarily.

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whearyoutoday at 2:35 PM

What are the chances that HN is getting astroturfed these days? Are mods strict about it?

I lots of relatively new accounts coming with what seems to me extreme, but altogether pop-culture acceptable opinions

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cdrnsftoday at 9:24 PM

I can't name a single thing this administration has done well, or competently and this is no exception. Unless, of course, you count killing innocent people between military action, aid cuts and ICE.

sharadovtoday at 8:27 PM

Meanwhile Pakistan launched airstrikes on Afghanistan

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/feb/27/pakistan-...

0x600613today at 10:55 AM

2 countries with the best war technologies on earth must work together to have a war with embargod-country-for-decades. And those 2 counties are founder of Board of Peace.

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jmward01today at 4:27 PM

Ok. So we have just taken out all of Israel's foes with force. They are safe now right? We can stop supporting them militarily in every way now right? They no longer need any weapons, intelligence support, defense support, etc, right? If this is the right path to their long term safety then this must be true.

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coffinbirthtoday at 1:10 PM

> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue.

Congrats America!

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globemaster99today at 2:02 PM

Peace president ah? American terrorists never learn to mind their own business in their own country. Where are all the MAGA clowns?

How exactly attacking Iran make their country great? Murdered million children in Iraq and now they started their terrorism in Iran.

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yodsanklaitoday at 12:02 PM

Nothing like a war to boost your popularity just before the elections

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tlogantoday at 1:59 PM

I hope this war will be short. And that the result will be Iran becoming a democracy that fully joins the global community. The Iranian people (Persians, Azerbaijanis, Kurds, and others), deserve better.

It would benefit the entire world to see Iran integrated and engaged internationally.

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kibaetoday at 8:11 AM

There seems to be an uptick around 1am on Polymarket.

https://polymarket.com/event/us-strikes-iran-by

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shykestoday at 8:18 PM

There are reports that Ali Khamenei has been killed:

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202602280738

r721today at 7:58 AM

Feb 25:

>White House officials believe ‘the politics are a lot better’ if Israel strikes Iran first

>As the administration mulls military action in Iran, officials argue it’d be best if Israel makes the first move.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/25/white-house-politic...

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niemandhiertoday at 11:23 AM

Previous conflicts between the involved parties were intense but also defined by constrain on both sides.

Israel did not mass bomb civilians, and Iranian agents did not commit sabotage against infrastructure on US soil.

I hope this pattern persists.

A hand full of determined Ukrainians managed to blow up North Stream, some people plunged part of Berlin into darkness for 2 weeks.

Power and data cables as well as pipelines are as vulnerable in the US, as they are here. Maybe even more so.

A regime that truly feared for its existence, might decide to escalate, since there is nothing to loose.

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ourmandavetoday at 2:24 PM

Again, little to no information for the US public. No approval from Congress.

Calling for the people to rise up. You can't bomb your way into regime change. Are we supplying arms to groups?

Is there a plan beyond pointless death and regional chaos the president would like to share?

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cdrnsftoday at 9:01 PM

Destroying alliances that took decades to build and then initiating multiple ill-advised military incursions is quite the play.

consumer451today at 8:46 PM

Tough news day for anyone who has a difficult time holding contradictory ideas in their mind. Pretty sure that includes myself.

On the one hand, Trump is awful for the USA, and the world.

On the other hand, there is a possibility that the freedom-wanting citizens of Iran finally have a slight chance of achieving their goal.

The chance of something truly positive happening seems low. However, as someone who has, for years, watched what happens in Iran via the lens of https://old.reddit.com/r/newiran, I am allowing myself the slightest amount of hope. Iranian people deserve it.

Of course, there is a large chance of this blowing up into something really bad for everyone.

edit: This Ukrainian is currently live streaming with OSINT, and his takes align with many of my actual realist thoughts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUdeA0zukq4

sega_saitoday at 11:37 AM

The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

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riffrafftoday at 7:23 AM

well, they were one week away from a nuke, as usual.

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alex_lowtoday at 11:57 AM

I'm surprised this has not been mentioned, for context:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

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helaobantoday at 7:56 PM

"Trump Rolls the Dice on Regime Change" (1)

What a headline. Anybody else have this on their election day bingo card?

Midterms should be a blood bath though, right? Right? (insert Anakin meme).

1. https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-rolls-the-dice-o...

apexalphatoday at 9:31 AM

While I have no love for the Iranian regime I fear this will end up like the 'liberation' of Iraq: A massive power vacuum in an unstable Islamic regime.

What even is the plan here if the air assault fails? Boots on the ground? In Iran?

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JKCalhountoday at 1:50 PM

People are posting these choice quotes:

"In order to get elected Barack Obama will start a war with Iran"

—Donald Trump, Nov 29, 2011

"Barack Obama will attack Iran to get re-elected."

—Trump, Jan 17, 2012

"Now that Obama's poll numbers are in tailspin watch for him to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. He is desperate."

—Trump, Oct 9, 2012

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anjeltoday at 7:00 PM

If some chinese samples of this unstoppable carrier killer made its way to Iran already.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-nears-deal-buy-supe...

Also, the US News media silence on this is noteworthy.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=reuters+cm-302+missile&ia=w...

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consumer451today at 1:22 PM

Here is a 12 minute video showing OSINT of various attacks, and Iranian counter-attacks.

https://youtu.be/ZmtRhiI9uWU

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ivraatiemstoday at 7:38 AM

I was discussing this with a friend today. It just feels like there's no point to these actions.

Not in the sense of "I don't ideologically agree with our decision to do this," but in the sense of, "I do not see how this accomplishes any ideological or practical goal."

What are they trying for? Regime change in Iran? No more Iranian nuclear program? There barely was one before. Keeping Israel safe? It's been an open secret for years that Iran is not a real threat to Israel, because any action it took against Israel would be existential for Iran and its leadership.

A US president who vocally and repeatedly promised he would not start new conflicts keeps starting them, and there's not even a reason. It's infuriating. I have my partisan opinions, but that should not be a partisan statement! It's just disturbing!

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Aliabid94today at 6:53 AM

Gotta derail any peace talks!

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udiorontoday at 1:03 PM

I believe this is related for Iran's decades old calls for "Death to America"/"Death to Israel".

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HumblyTossedtoday at 12:43 PM

Needs a war to cancel the mid terms.

chinathrowtoday at 4:15 PM

That regime in the US. It is truly baffling.

cc-dtoday at 2:00 PM

We all saw this coming decades ago, they weren't exactly subtle.

athrowaway3ztoday at 7:40 AM

I have to wonder how much of this is driven by Israel accounting for the risk of less favorable US relationship in the future.

Pre-emptive violence; not even justified with a narrative of escalating threat.

Bleak for anybody who knows their history.

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dennysoratoday at 7:17 PM

I think everyone should stop being so nervous. How many times have the U.S. and Israel hit Iran over the past two years? And people still aren’t used to it? On Monday, the market might not even drop. In fact, a lot of people may want to buy the dip. Everyone hypes up the fear, the big players wait to scoop up bargains, and then what happens? Not only does it not fall, it rebounds instead. How many times have we seen this script already?

And Iran? Every single time it’s just performance art. I’m already sick of watching it.

Besides, Iran has been heavily sanctioned and blocked by the U.S. and Israel for so many years that its impact on the global economy is basically zero. So what the hell is there to dump over?

Oil prices? Venezuela’s situation has already been dealt with. The U.S. can produce its own oil, Canada still has plenty of oil, and Russia is still selling at bargain-bin prices. Iran and the surrounding major oil-producing countries are barely even moving in sync, and there’s basically no real incentive for anything major to happen to oil. So why the hell would the market drop?

As for all this fearmongering, I’d say go harder. Seriously, make it as apocalyptic as possible, so my gold can moon, I can pick up cheap Taiwan stocks, and short crypto, so I can completely clean out all the people panicking in fear.

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upmindtoday at 10:10 AM

How did the US justify this?

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CrzyLngPwdtoday at 5:01 PM

USA, bombing for peace since bombs were invented.

coffinbirthtoday at 8:56 AM

At this point, no country in the world will ever again 'make a deal' with the US, because while pretending to negotiate with you they try to ram a knife into your back.

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comfysockstoday at 7:19 PM

Not the first time Trump has wagged the dog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_dog

carlosbarazatoday at 8:22 AM

What are that pizza place google statistics?

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drcongotoday at 11:26 AM

Bored of Peace

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swingboytoday at 11:02 AM

A mere 8 months ago, Trump and his cronies were saying that Iran’s nuclear program was “totally obliterated” every chance they got.

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