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prewettyesterday at 6:54 PM10 repliesview on HN

I wish they'd sell old varieties of apples. The new ones all insist of having Red Delicious (so called) as part of the genetic makeup. It does not impart a good flavor. There are all these nice old ones, like Cortland and Winesap, but you can't get them anywhere.


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kpilyesterday at 9:31 PM

In Sweden and I think Europe, there seems to be quite much product development in apples. I think one of the reasons is that storage seems to have been more or less perfected so that the produce can be sold over almost a whole year.

Using only traditional methods there are several "new" Swedish varieties, Aroma, Frida and Saga that are very nice - and especially Saga is absolutely fantastic - On par or better that international varieties Jazz, Pink Lady and Honeycrisp.

Some of the more traditional varieties are also sold more and for a longer period because of the improved storage, even though that I think they have a shorter storage window.

Tomteyesterday at 6:59 PM

I love Boskoop, and they are thankfully still all over German supermarkets. If not, Holstein Cox will do, and if they have it, Elstar.

The real good ones, like Berlepsch, are hard to find here, though, unless you travel to a plantation.

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ac29yesterday at 9:11 PM

There's an apple orchard that sells at the farmers market in my city with >40 seasonal varieties, most of which you'd never see at a supermarket. Apples grow well in a lot of the US, its worth looking for local options

whycomeyesterday at 9:34 PM

I always feel personally attacked when people bad-mouth (ha) the Red Delicious. It's true that many are this mealy disaster -- but I think that's a product of crappy long cellar times and trying to get money for 'old' apples. If you get a good fresh one, it should be the right level of tart, sweet, crisp, and juicy. And when they are good, they are probably my favorite. It's just so damn hard to get the good ones and no great ways to tell if they're good before biting in.

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hinkleyyesterday at 11:15 PM

Because golden delicious and red delicious were everywhere in the 90's and spontaneous hybridization is a very, very low success rate.

Ambrosia apples appear to be a spontaneous cross of grandchildren of Golden and Red delicious apples.

grosswaityesterday at 8:35 PM

I’d like to see a citation - I’m not sure this Red Delicious assertion is true.

IncreasePostsyesterday at 8:16 PM

Cosmic crisp seems very commonly available(at least, here in colorado) and has a great taste and texture with no red delicious genes present

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smashedyesterday at 8:46 PM

Depends on where you are maybe? Cortland is still readily available here (Quebec). Hope it stays that way, I'm feeling slightly worried. Seems like the trend of trademarked new apple varieties has not quite caught up here yet as orchards are not interested in replacing tried and true stocks.

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simojoyesterday at 7:53 PM

Not if you have a local amish plug

dodger-dogyesterday at 7:31 PM

Have you ever even Honey-Crisped, Bro?