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georgemcbaytoday at 6:25 PM6 repliesview on HN

Ok, but isn't the idea that prediction markets surface private knowledge a big part of the defense as to why they shouldn't be treated as illegal gambling?

So like, which is it, is insider trading expected, or are these just gambling sites that should be illegal in many jurisdictions?


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tptacektoday at 6:28 PM

Yes. This argument doesn't even apprehend insider trading laws on regulated securities markets in the US, where the crime is about theft, not fairness.

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chao-today at 6:47 PM

If all one cares about is the accuracy of predictions (i.e. setting aside value judgements vis-a-vis society or fairness), it does seem like "insider trading" should make prediction markets more accurate.

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bowmessagetoday at 7:05 PM

Agreed. So who are the outsider chumps taking the other ends of these bets? At this point, it doesn’t make sense to participate unless you’re an insider.

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Karrot_Kreamtoday at 6:38 PM

Prediction Markets, unlike many gambling sites, create a marketplace for odds. There's no house taking positions like in certain casinos or on DraftKings. Market makers offer shares in Yes and No while bettors buy and sell these odds to each other or to market makers.

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alephnerdtoday at 6:29 PM

> isn't the idea that prediction markets surface private knowledge a big part of the defense as to why they shouldn't be treated as illegal gambling

No. Their defense is that they are a gamified platform for futures contracts and hence should fall under CFTC regulation.

The CFTC also cracks down on insider trading, but it took time for them to write regulations to catch up with prediction markets.

It is now a priority [0] and they have just started a paid whistleblower [1] programs specifically to catch insider traders within prediction markets.

[0] - https://www.lw.com/en/insights/new-cftc-enforcement-director...

[1] - https://www.whistleblower.gov/whistleblower-alerts/Insider_T...

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fontaintoday at 6:31 PM

Prediction markets don’t need to surface private knowledge, they can surface sophisticated interpretations of public knowledge. They are certainly gambling if you’re an unsophisticated rube (which is most of the users).

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