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chasilyesterday at 11:26 PM3 repliesview on HN

I think that an atmosphere with measurable oxygen gas is a far longer lasting, pervasive and interesting signal that by itself could prompt investigation.

The oxygen has been here for far longer than us, sometimes at much higher levels.


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apitoday at 12:40 AM

Earth has been screaming it has a very likely biosphere for at least 500 million to a billion years. To anyone with huge space based telescopes.

So why no visitors? If there had been, we wouldn’t know. Any probes that dropped into our planet any further back than a few tens of thousands of years (and less if they landed in a hot wet region) might be gone by now. They’d have been eaten by corrosion and mechanical erosion and eventually by plate tectonics.

They also likely would have been small, meaning even if they got fossilized we’d have to get super lucky to find one. The energy required to accelerate something to meaningful fractions of light speed and then decelerate at the other side means a probe is probably an orbiter the size of a basketball and then a little drone the size of a golf ball or something.

We might have had dozens or hundreds of little visitors over the last billion years and we’d never know unless we got real lucky.

Flyby missions are also likely due to the physics. The energy for slowing down might instead be spent just going faster to get results faster. The probe just streaks past at 7% the speed of light and takes a bunch of pictures and measurements.

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3eb7988a1663today at 2:14 AM

In the book Diaspora, ancient aliens replaced the elements with the unusual form - I forget the details, but say N15 instead of the common N14, O15 instead of O16. Gives a big bright signal that something unusual is happening on this planet.

DoctorOetkertoday at 12:38 AM

chemistry has more reactions than just with oxygen, oxygen alone is a poor indicator of life...

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