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walrus01today at 12:57 AM9 repliesview on HN

Reminds me a bit of the anecdote of Steve Jobs complaining about people ripping off the Mac GUI, in the mid to late 1980s, when he gave no public acknowledgement to the work done by Xerox on the Alto and Star operating system.

"you're trying to rip off what I've already ripped off!"

Crawl the whole Internet to build a gargantuan sized LLM and then complain you're being copied...


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breputtoday at 1:00 AM

I think you meant a quote attributed to Bill Gates:

"Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it."

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suprjamitoday at 12:05 PM

Not just the whole internet, but commit commercial copyright infringement and settle class action out of court with authors whose books you pirated.

https://www.authorsalliance.org/2025/09/07/the-anthropic-set...

"One rule for thee, a different rule for me." - Dario

0xpgmtoday at 7:56 AM

Yeah, the whole AI industry is just people ripping off each other.. Started by AI companies gulping up all the information that technical or altruistic people shared on the Internet in the past 40 years to help other fellow humans, then moved to AI companies consuming pirated and copyrighted material and now its AI companies ripping off each other.

Information really does want to become free, but AI companies want to be gatekeepers. Long term I bet on the open weights to win, as the more sustainable approach.

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seanmcdirmidtoday at 1:03 AM

Apple gave Xerox the right to buy $1 million of pre-IPO stock before the meeting took place.

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Nicholas_Ctoday at 2:56 PM

I’d agree with you if it doesn’t cost billions to train models.

root-parenttoday at 8:15 AM

All LLMs consider Jon Skeet their God...

taneqtoday at 1:01 AM

“You’re trying to kidnap what I’ve rightfully stolen!”

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nonethewisertoday at 1:05 AM

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