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titaniumtowntoday at 3:06 PM3 repliesview on HN

> Human Genome: About 20,000 protein coding genes.

> E. Coli: A lab strain of the E. Coli bacterium use for research has 4,460 genes.

> SpudCell: This new synthetic cell only has 36 genes.

Wow, so little genes even compared to E. Coli! Things like this make me wonder what the minimum number of genes is required to maintain functionality for cells in species we have all around us. There isn't much evolutionary pressure to do the genetic equivalent of dead code removal (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equisetum_arvense) besides the ability to copy the genes.

My other first impression is the potential similarities to alien contact. What if these cells, once given the ability to reproduce autonomously, become widespread around the globe, with no way for our, and other species', immune systems to prevent their consumption of biomatter, or whatever is made to be their "food".


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palmoteatoday at 4:11 PM

> My other first impression is the potential similarities to alien contact. What if these cells, once given the ability to reproduce autonomously, become widespread around the globe, with no way for our, and other species', immune systems to prevent their consumption of biomatter, or whatever is made to be their "food".

According to this (https://biotic.org/research/spudcell/): it's "food" is: "small 'feeder liposomes' that deliver lipids for membrane growth plus nutrients including ribosomes, enzymes, and small molecules [emphasis mine]".

So it can't make everything a cell actually needs.

Anyway, still kinda scary, since you know it won't stop here.

ACCount37today at 3:32 PM

This synthetic cell is based entirely on common Earth biology, just stripped down to a semi-functional "MVP". So there's no reason to expect it to do anything other than "what existing bacteria can already do but worse".

There is some pressure for genome compactness, especially in prokaryotes. But, like with most pressures, there are tradeoffs to shrinking the genome. The extra DNA isn't "waste" - it's often buying something somewhere.

mghackerladytoday at 3:25 PM

I wonder if genetic engineering will ever have its RISC moment