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grey-areayesterday at 6:34 AM3 repliesview on HN

Yes, a lot of it involves denigrating women and an entitled and very rigid attitude towards the male place in society (alphas etc).

This is incredibly toxic for young men growing up and the women they interact with.

Some of the more prominent proponents are actual pimps (the Tate brothers).


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sciencejerkyesterday at 3:36 PM

Is manosphere related to "red pill"?

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elcritchyesterday at 11:41 AM

How is that different than pervasive pornography though? Many young boys now think it’s normal to ask girls for sexual acts before having ever kissed a girl.

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AlexandrByesterday at 2:06 PM

> very rigid attitude towards the male place in society (alphas etc)

Unfortunately this has been embraced by many feminists as well - consider how "incel" is now used as a general insult from such folks, implying that "getting laid" is essential to being a man. This is a huge reversal from the attitude in the early 2000s where it was seen as important to move beyond such traditional masculine expectations and that associating sexual success with worth was a part of "toxic masculinity". The older I get the more I think "horseshoe theory"[1] is directionally, if not literally, correct.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

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