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minimaxiryesterday at 5:12 PM20 repliesview on HN

The developer's guide (https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model) has some interesting semantic tips for using the model:

> Intent understanding: GPT-5.6 can better infer the user’s underlying goal and intended level of work without you specifying every step. Continue to state important constraints, approval boundaries, and success criteria explicitly.

> Original image detail: GPT-5.6 preserves the original dimensions of images sent with original or auto detail instead of resizing them to a patch budget or pixel-dimension limit.

> Use shorter prompts: In internal evaluations, replacing long, explicit system prompts with minimal prompts improved scores by roughly 10–15%, while reducing total tokens by 41–66% and cost by 33–67%.

> Avoid generic brevity instructions: GPT-5.6 is more sensitive than GPT-5.5 to instructions such as “Be concise,” “Keep it short,” or “Use minimal text.”

> Control warmth: GPT-5.6 does not become meaningfully better when prompted to be broadly friendlier or more empathetic.


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ravenstineyesterday at 5:23 PM

> Avoid generic brevity instructions

That part is confusing because it's not like they provide an example of how default GPT-5.6 output compares with GPT-5.5 both with default output and prompted for brevity. Whenever I use such prompts, it's usually because I want the model to give me the gist in a few sentences. I'd be stunned if GPT-5.6 was that concise by default. I would think that could "break" a lot of things for developers who didn't know to make prompt changes after upgrading to 5.6. What if you were expecting GPT to be as wordy as it usually is? Then suddenly your output is not wordy enough?

Smells like OpenAI trying its best to stave off financial armageddon for another few months. Then again, I'm not sure why they chose to waste so much output computation on verbal diarrhea all this time up to now.

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ryukopostingtoday at 3:45 PM

> Avoid generic brevity instructions

y'know, I don't think I will. I really, truly want one-word answers to any binary or multiple-choice question. If I want more, I will ask for it once the model has given its answer.

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avaeryesterday at 7:00 PM

I'm impressed. It feels like a faster Fable (probably due to the more efficient token usage). It performs roughly the same job, just with 4x less steps (gamedev).

Remains to be seen how the "shorter prompts" advice translates to homogeneity/collapse though.

artisinyesterday at 6:16 PM

Control warmth[1]

> GPT-5.6 does not become meaningfully better when prompted to be broadly friendlier or more empathetic. Instead of generic instructions such as “Be friendly and warm,” use concrete guidance: > Be direct and tactful. Acknowledge friction specifically when relevant. Avoid canned reassurance and unnecessary sign-offs.

Soo basically, my new 5.6 custom instructions: Be Jeeves and eliminate all friction from my life through immense processing power. Acknowledge friction specifically when relevant. Avoid canned reassurance and unnecessary sign-offs.

[1] https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model#c...

swatcoderyesterday at 6:44 PM

> can better infer the user’s underlying goal and intended level of work

This is a trap.

It's the optimistic fallacy that poisons all "consumer scale" machine learning products and what's going to effectively ruin these models as they keep chasing it in the same way that web queries were ruined, social media feeds were ruined, and media recommenders were ruined.

For the vendor, optimizing metrics across their whole user base, they always see positive technological progress as their system gets better at making assumptions and accumulating user engagement scores in aggregate. But for the individual user, most of which has some weird tail intent/interest and some of whom have many weird tail intent/interests, the experience quietly but catastrophically degrades. Output/results become more generic, more divergent with the underspecified "weird tail" intent, and more stubbornly hard to ever wrangle towards that "weird tail" altogether.

We've been watching this cycle happen for 20 years now and it's proving hard for anybody to escape because it works so well for the trillion dollar company driving it forward. But while each step might feel ergonomic and welcome to individual users, there's a frog boiling enshitification at play.

In pursuit of output quality and capability (rather than simply the vendor's user count), what we need rather than "makes better guesses" is "presses for more clarity", even where it feels kind of annoying.

Even among human professionals, one of the first hurdles of breaking out of junior tier work is gaining the confidence to press your colleagues and clients to be more specific in their thoughts and expressions despite their desire to have you do it all for them. But they're often coming to you with incomplete, muddy, and conflicting ideas for which there is no safe and correct assumption that you might just run with, and it's your expertise (i.e. relevant "intelligence") that's critical to bringing attention to that. To achieve professional progression, you need to learn to do that and to not just optimize appeasing the ambiguous client/colleague today in exchange for mutual expense tomorrow. To avoid enshitification, which is probably not possible, we need these models to be learning that too.

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zahlmanyesterday at 10:06 PM

> ...tips for using the model:

> Avoid generic brevity instructions: GPT-5.6 is more sensitive than GPT-5.5 to instructions such as “Be concise,” “Keep it short,” or “Use minimal text.”

I don't follow. Isn't "the model actually cares and will do what you say" a reason to use those kinds of instructions more liberally?

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derpifiedtoday at 3:31 AM

> Intent understanding

Does this mean ChatGPT will stop botsplaining things to me? I get it quite a bit more per unit time from ChatGPT than claude. Maybe that will change now.

(By botsplaining I mean when the AI explains some unstated premise of the prompt itself back at me as a correction when in many cases it's the motivation for the question in the first place)

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egorfineyesterday at 7:14 PM

> Intent understanding

This will totally make it brain damaged over a certain tasks. Sort of like the same brain damage that prompted OpenAI project managers to destroy ChatGPT.app today.

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mlmonkeyyesterday at 5:49 PM

> Avoid generic brevity instructions: GPT-5.6 is more sensitive than GPT-5.5 to instructions such as “Be concise,” “Keep it short,” or “Use minimal text.”

What about my favorite, "no yapping"?

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__mharrison__yesterday at 8:48 PM

Serious question: what is a short prompt?

(For that matter at what point is it "long"? And does the rest of the context matter? Should it be short too?)

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stillpointlabyesterday at 6:54 PM

> Avoid generic brevity instructions: GPT-5.6 is more sensitive than GPT-5.5 to instructions such as “Be concise,” “Keep it short,” or “Use minimal text.”

I used to go to a barber and if you said "cut it short", he cut it really short.

kylecordesyesterday at 9:58 PM

I wonder if it will do any better than past versions when one begs and pleads for it to get a job done using a concise, modest amount of code (as an expert human developer might), rather than responding to all prompts by shoveling in a large amount of code.

exceptionetoday at 8:53 AM

  > Intent understanding: GPT-5.6 can better infer the user’s underlying goal and intended level of work without you specifying every step. Continue to state important constraints, approval boundaries, and success criteria explicitly.
I guess this has been achieved by training on user's chat history?
elAhmoyesterday at 5:54 PM

> Use shorter prompts: In internal evaluations, replacing long, explicit system prompts with minimal prompts improved scores by roughly 10–15%, while reducing total tokens by 41–66% and cost by 33–67%.

A shorter prompt results in half as much tokens spend? I find this very hard to believe.

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epihelixyesterday at 5:56 PM

> Use shorter prompts: In internal evaluations, replacing long, explicit system prompts with minimal prompts improved scores by roughly 10–15%, while reducing total tokens by 41–66% and cost by 33–67%.

When has this ever not been the case? I don't think this is a GPT 5.6 specialty!

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postalcoderyesterday at 5:27 PM

> Avoid generic brevity instructions: GPT-5.6 is more sensitive than GPT-5.5 to instructions such as “Be concise,” “Keep it short,” or “Use minimal text.”

RIP Caveman skill. Six month good. Now skill dead.

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firemeltyesterday at 6:19 PM

do we have similar guidance or page from anthropic for claude?

cromkayesterday at 6:55 PM

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