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Krutoniumtoday at 3:56 PM4 repliesview on HN

Good, Kratom (as sold in products like Feel Free) is fucking awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLObpcBR2yw


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phil21today at 4:02 PM

Feel Free (and similar) extracts like this are especially onerous. It's no longer Kratom powder that takes a lot of effort to get into trouble with.

These extracts are not very well studied, and may be stronger than many Schedule II opioids. Especially for certain brain chemistries.

In no world should Feel Free execs not be in prison at this point. They know precisely what they are doing, and their marketing is especially nasty since they market it towards addicts as a safe alchohol alternative.

Kratom powders of 15 years ago can be defended in many ways. These extracts have absolutely no leg to stand on. They are an end-around opioid scheduling.

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varenctoday at 7:38 PM

Free Free is celebrating this DEA rule because they say they're exempt due to their use of natural kratom leaf, not synthetic: https://botanictonics.com/pages/consumer-education

I am skeptical though since I presume their capsules are much stronger than natural kratom powder. The linked YouTube video seems to say that Feel Free intentionally includes higher concentrations of 7-OH. So a bit confused.

I hope the Feel Free does experience the crack down. Seems like someone just needs to test the Feel Free product's 7-OH concentration level, and if it exceeds 0.05%, as it likely does, the ban will apply.

IAmGraydontoday at 5:15 PM

This doesn't ban Feel Free and similar products because they don't contain 7-OH. They just contain powdered Kratom leaf.

Forgeties79today at 4:02 PM

It’s wild that this stuff has remained unregulated for so long. Usually that can be attributed to the demographics (perceived or real) of the users though.