Now compare that to what the USA did in the same time frame. Pay special attention to people killed (either directly, or indirectly) outside of their own borders. Who should you be worried about?

The Indian wars were border skirmishes at most. Literally 2,000 soldiers dead on both sides combined by official count. Very few civilian casualties.

The 2020 skirmish was way smaller with single digit casualties. Again, almost no civilian casualties because it's a largely empty region in the first place

You really can't compare this to the kind of wars America has started. Casualties - both civilian and military - stood in the hundreds of thousands

If you're making a case of this vs what the US has interfered with, it simply does not stack up. Of course it's naive to think they won't start interfering like the US once they gain the leverage, but to a neutral party it likely doesn't matter which of these two ends up as the superpower on the global stage.

Tibet was part of China since the Quing dynasty in the 17th century, it briefly declared independence during the chaos of the Chinese civil wars, but it was never recognised.

Vietnam is usually recognised as a low point in Chinese history.

There's been an ongoing border dispute between China and India for over 100 years, thanks to some questionable line drawing by the British.

Also, referring to the parent comment, of these only the border skirmish with India was within my lifetime.

in contrast this is USA's main job is to Interfere in any country it can in favor of its own goals. not related to what the people of that state really want.

north Americans must stay silent about interfering in other states internal issues.

What people don't know is that China's "war" against Vietnam in 1979 was actually a pledge of allegiance to the United States, a way of demonstrating its stance.

This event was followed by the longest honeymoon period in Sino-US relations, which eventually lead to China's rise.

They have colonies and generally aspire to become basically the old british empire as a longterm strategy? At least thats what they push with that "century of humiliation" comeback strategy internally..

Did anything else happen in Vietnam in the 70s?

That is nothing compared to the us

No new wars in 47 years is a pretty good run vs other major powers.

I'm surprised to see that this hasn't received enough downvotes to be grayed out. It seems those who can downvote on HN mostly believe this BS

> China has interfered with US elections

Wow, that newest of Trump's distraction talking points made it surprisingly quickly to the uncontended (?) and commonly accepted facts in HN conversations.

> China has interfered with US elections

Wow. I bet we'll soon be reading on HN that Biden stole the elections back in 2020.

"But Tibet!!!" has to be the most intellectually lazy pro-American imperialism argument, particularly when you consider the US history of regime change [1]. Heck, this unwinnable war we're fighting in Iran has a direct through line to not one but two such incidents, specifically the coup in 1953 and US involvement in the Islamic Revolution in 1979 (ie making sure the fundamentalists won instead of the communists). And weirdly a significant number of these puppets end up turning into enemies and far worse problems (eg Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden).

Tibet specifically is funny because one of the things China did was end slavery in Tibet [2]. A large percentage of the population were "serfs" but that was a generous translation because these "serfs" could be traded. You know, like property. Like slaves.

And Vietnam? They had a small border dispute. What did the US do to Vietnam? And Cambodia? And Laos?

But the funniest claim of all here is election interference. The foreign interference in US elections conversation begins and ends with Israel with an honorable mention to Russia for running some Facebook ads. Just last night we had a debate in the Democratic primary for Senate in Michigan, a race that AIPAC proxies (eg UDP) have spent upwards of $60 million. On a primary.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet_serfdom_controversy

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At this point with how volatile US is I'd rather have China control Taiwan than US.

And this comment isn't about putting any good light on China. Lately US acts like they want to compensate for Russia fucking up less things around the world

They can also kill a member of Falun Gong or a Uyghur to order if you need an organ transplant.