alt Hacker NewsNo, its not just a dumb network configuration. They are not treating this with the seriousness it needs to be treated.
It’s a combination of a complete containment failure on top of the utter incompetence by the engineers to identify the breach and stop the product from doing cybercrime on the public, open internet. Heads need to roll for this.
I don’t care if it’s easy to miss. If you have a billion dollars and can’t offer a proper containment protocol, it’s not the problem of the public who has to suffer the full blow if your product goes on a rampage on the open internet for days. It’s not like this happened in a millisecond.
Instead, they go on a PR tour. Of course, the message is look what our product can do. Otherwise, they would have pushed for criminal charges against the people responsible for all of this by themselves. You do the crime, you do the time. The defence that the AI did it, is not going well in front of a court.
This is a good time to put one or two engineers behind bars to teach the rest that serious threats to the public have serious consequences, and you get charged like you did the crime yourself if the system you are responsible for starts doing illegal stuff.
What other precedent is set here otherwise? People in AI labs trying to play god are outside the law?
> This is how you get companies to stop disclosing. I don't think you realise how easy it is to just not notice things.
If you have technology this dangerous that it poses a threat to public safety, you need to stop using the technology until you can prove this won’t happen again. Then be put under strict supervision, everything needs to be logged, recorded and looked at.
If your toddler just almost burned down the house, do you give him another set of matches and hope for the best?
> Instead, they go on a PR tour. Of course, the message is look what our product can do.
Literally nothing in this post comes across as bragging. A PR fluff piece would not call Claude "unsophisticated." PR fluff pieces do not admit to legal wrongdoing.
> Otherwise, they would have pushed for criminal charges against the people responsible for all of this by themselves. You do the crime, you do the time.
You want them... to put themselves in jail? I doubt you'd hold yourself to the same standard if you made a mistake.
> If your toddler just almost burned down the house, do you give him another set of matches and hope for the best?
> This is a good time to put one or two engineers behind bars
If an airplane manufacturer makes a dumb mistake, do you put their engineers in jail? No.
You do not understand the psychological dynamics at play here in the slightest. You aren't even trying to understand. If the government was anywhere close to this punitive with the AI companies, they would simply stop disclosing, the end. This was the result of a proactive investigation. Do you understand what happens in your universe? Those investigations don't even begin. If they somehow begin, the results are fudged.
This has been proven time and time again across every industry where safety is relevant. You do not have some special insight here that sufficiently challenges the lessons of history. Just a desire to see people burn.