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Borg3today at 7:28 AM4 repliesview on HN

The alternative is simple.. Go dark. VPN tech is known from like 30 years. Pretty much everyone can use it (VPN providers). But instead using it to browse net, build VPN overlay networks of interest for people. Gaming networks, R&D networks, Retro Networks. People will peer to PoP and use resources. Bad actor? BAN it from network. You have control. This could be done in Internet, but big corpos and big money won the battle. Just wake F*ing up...


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kukkeliskuutoday at 8:54 AM

Continuing on your suggestion.

There could be open source tooling to create custom private "closednets", with

- trust ring mechanism to allow invitations, flagging, banning, and banning those that invite people who were banned

- the rules of the closednet

- search engine with opt-in scraping

- portal (remember the 80s?) with all the registered nodes, perhaps by service category such as public git repo hosts, web sites etc.

etc.

The first closednet could be Hacker News.

iamcalledrobtoday at 11:39 AM

I think you'd struggle to keep LLM bots off the network unfortunately.

If it had any real value, anyway.

Small, truly private communities could be an interesting thing though.

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inigyoutoday at 10:58 AM

It doesn't have to be an IP-layer network. A website that you need to log in to view works just as well.

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gosub100today at 12:30 PM

I just used a VPN yesterday and the NY times blocked me because they think I look like a bot. It gave a couple possible reasons, one being "a bot was also using this IP address".

VPNs are great for torrenting but any serious website like an online bank or web email provider will turn you away. They claim it's for bots but really it because they only want customers they can track.