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pelasacotoday at 6:54 AM1 replyview on HN

A modern 1877 scale event would probably immediately fuel (pun intended) a furious climate change debate, even though attributing the existence of the El Niño itself to fossil fuels would not be scientifically justified... or maybe was the 1877 El Niño caused by fossil fuels (so many Wars happened in those years) ?


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defrosttoday at 7:08 AM

Nobody in planet modelling has ever suggested that the 3 phase El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) exists because of fossil fuel usage.

An extreme swing, here and there, has always been part of its nature.

The observed change is more and more extreme swings, greater amplitude, higher frequency.

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