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lokartoday at 4:37 PM7 repliesview on HN

A weird take. They seem oblivious to the fact that real problem is not distrust of flock, it’s distrust of the police. They are in a situation where the public just barely trusts the local police, and a new surveillance system pushes them over the edge into hostility. They need to be working to gain much more trust.


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matherialtoday at 4:43 PM

Winona, MN has a population of 20k. I've never been there, but if it's like any of the small towns I lived in, most people trust the local police. If anything, the usual small-town complaint is that the police are not doing enough about <x>, where <x> are the homeless dudes in front of the library, or package theft, or whatever.

In small towns, people distrust the federal government and big tech a lot more.

everdrivetoday at 5:12 PM

>They seem oblivious to the fact that real problem is not distrust of flock

I really distrust flock in and of itself.

estearumtoday at 4:39 PM

Police are bounded by evidentiary laws and warrant requirements, all of which legitimately do stand up in court. Flock is not.

So no, actually Flock itself is the problem. If Flock were willing to sign some consent decree that its data can only be accessed by police with a valid judicial warrant, for example, they probably could've headed off this entire mess.

But instead they called people "terroristic" for pushing back. Completely braindead move from the CEO.

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pj_mukhtoday at 4:49 PM

But also, I dont understand all this hand-wringing. EFF has a clear easy solution [1]: Put all the data behind a Warrant. Problem solved. No trust required.

Wanna look up where a murderer drove? Go get a warrant

Wanna look up where a robbery suspect drove to? Go get a Warrant.

Divorce case hinging on one party's whereabouts on a certain date? Warrant.

Speeding tickets are automatically filed anyways.

[1]: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/08/too-little-too-late-fl...

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SpicyLemonZesttoday at 4:54 PM

They’re oblivious to this fact because it’s not true. Most people by a substantial margin trust their local police.

outside1234today at 4:41 PM

Oh no, we distrust both.