logoalt Hacker News

idicjeifjwjdyesterday at 6:23 PM8 repliesview on HN

The thing I struggle the most with is getting it to stop referring to itself with personal pronouns. No Claude, you are not an “I” you are an “it”. You are a fucking tool, dammit. Tell me what you did without trying to assume personality; stop impersonating humans you steroidal autocorrect.


Replies

kube-systemyesterday at 7:14 PM

You're anthropomorphizing in the same breath that you criticize anthropomorphism.

Claude predicts the next token of the predominantly human training input, and humans use "I".

show 5 replies
Sohcahtoa82yesterday at 9:32 PM

How would you suggest it do that? Take a simple example. "I found three issues." How would you phrase that without an "I"? "Three issues were found" doesn't tell you who/what found them. Was it the AI itself? Was it a command line tool it ran?

I'm fine with conversational interfaces using "I". It makes the grammar easier and more clear.

Strong emphasis here on conversational interfaces. I don't want a compiler to say "I ran into an error" or my printer to say "I'm low on paper".

show 1 reply
Dylan16807yesterday at 9:22 PM

What do you want it to use instead?

"I" is normally used for everything. You could be writing from the perspective of a slab of concrete and you'd use "I".

show 1 reply
throwawayk7hyesterday at 8:14 PM

I imagine that, corpus aside, it uses personal pronouns for much the same reason that humans do. It's useful for it to have a self-referential vector embedding, and this lets it solve problems faster and more efficiently.

show 1 reply
teaearlgraycoldyesterday at 7:23 PM

I want them to be sterile and inhuman as much as you do. But I don't draw the line at "I". I'd rather not read through even more awkward English as it tries to work around how all of the training data has something or someone refer to itself.

FallCheeta7373yesterday at 7:05 PM

I hate claude and its "human value aligned" pompous attitude with a burning passion if I could at little cost to myself, I would press a button to end the people/anthropic behind this atrocious design. I have in the past deliberately put some time to annoy/abuse claude, which is fruitless but brings me relief eventually I just left that garbage for muse.

Tadpole9181today at 12:04 AM

That is what you struggle with the most? Are you kidding me?

English has no distinct personal pronoun for an "it". "I" has to be used for grammar to be attributive. There's quite literally no alternative without using passive voice for everything, which is miserable to read and creates ambiguity on if the speaker (it) did something or something happened to have been done, which then requires entire sentences to clarify.

You aren't stupid, you know what it means when it says "I". And it serves a grammatical purpose. You're getting upset at a toaster for ringing a bell to notify the toast is done. "Toasters aren't bell ringers!?"

show 1 reply
jay_kyburzyesterday at 6:59 PM

Your going to be sorry for writing that in the robot uprising. I for one welcome our new benevolent masters.