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JumpCrisscrosstoday at 5:35 AM1 replyview on HN

> It's unknowable

Knowability and likelihood are almost orthogonal here. If I commit a crime and perfectly destroy the evidence, my deed may be unknowable. That doesn’t make it more or less likely.

> not possible to prove if any one specific conversation contained the insights for solving Navier–Stokes

It may be. We haven’t seen the researchers’ transcripts. We don’t know what Buckmaster or his co-author uploaded to OpenAI or with what permissions (or if OpenAI actually respects those toggles).


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tristanjtoday at 6:14 AM

I think OpenAI desperately wants to make a blanket denial that they didn't look at or train on Buckmaster and Alpöge's chat transcripts, but know they cannot, because the data is anonymized.

The fact they can't make a blanket denial triggers everyone's bullshit detectors, and they're getting eviscerated over it.

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