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pixl97yesterday at 5:31 PM1 replyview on HN

Because software engineering is not professional engineering.

Now, this doesn't always stops management, but when you have to have an engineering signoff it does make things a bit more difficult.


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robocatyesterday at 10:18 PM

Do you feel like an inadiquate imposter or something? I'm assuming you work in software.

Watch some engineers in other disciplines and you soon recognise that many of them have about the same responsibility as a software engineer. Design is design.

Or read about engineering failures like flight QF32 (mostly a success story):

  A paperwork review showed that the required signatures were missing from 131 out of 138 retrospective concessions issued between 2009 and 2011
https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/a-matter-of-millimeters-...

Australian Quantas, with a UK Rolls Royce engine on an Airbus, with engines maintained in Aussie.

Safety is now often made up of interlocking: regulations, standards, quality systems, safety management systems, insurance, international legal contracts. Certified engineers and signatures are usually only a very small part of those systems.

Certification matters less than you might think across international borders.

Perhaps I'm a cynic, but beliefs in certification seem so irrational to me. What is it? Jealous desires for status? Desire to have guilds/gatekeepers? Complete misunderstanding of how safety occurs in "real" engineering?

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