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tomberttoday at 6:07 PM3 repliesview on HN

> I do think his choice of words was a bit suboptimal. But, it got the point across.

As I've gotten older, I've grown to appreciate people who are willing to be a little rude in order to avoid wasting people's time or giving them false impressions.

For example, when recruiters reach out to me on LinkedIn now, I almost always say something like "I don't want to waste your time or mine: what is the salary range?" It might be considered a bit "rude" to immediately jump to money, but I figure that that's less rude than wasting 30-90 minutes of time for a job that I have no chance of accepting.

I also try and be a little upfront if I don't like food someone has prepared. I try not to be too much of a dick, but if someone prepared something that I don't like and they ask my opinion, I will say that I wasn't a huge fan. Again, maybe a bit rude, but I also don't want to mislead people.

It kind of goes against my gut; I, like most people, don't really want to make people feel bad and I certainly am not immune to people-pleasing, but I've tried to fight that for the greater cause of being more-honest and upfront with how I speak.


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notsiriustoday at 10:11 PM

I actually think it’s more about the emotional maturity to cut to the chase and address someone’s actual concerns.

I’m a big fan of bluntness / honest feedback, but it can still be done very rudely when inappropriate

like the svp observed that the ic was saying the details, not because the ic needed to share them, but because the ic was anxious that the svp didn’t view them as competent. So the svp cut to the chase and addressed that directly

For your food example, a host might ask if you like the food - not because they care about their cooking skills - but just want to make sure you had a good time. So, saying you don’t like the food and giving cooking suggestions would need to be accompanied by some reassurance that you still enjoyed their company or beautiful home or something. Otherwise it’s still rude

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cushychickentoday at 10:26 PM

Having your subordinates think you’re dismissive is a risk when you’re SVP, and it’s one with a blurrier line.

Plenty of people would have come away from this interaction without the level of introspection the author had, and thought, “Man, that SVP is a jerk.” This can add up into frustration and, given time, turnover.

My claim wasn’t that SVP was ineffective - the point was clearly made and understood.

My claim is that it would have taken slightly more words to get that point across without any reputational downside to the SVP.

Whether that cost is worth paying is a question of culture and style.

kviranitoday at 7:05 PM

This resonates as I'm trying to do this more, especially since I'm historically more people-pleasey.

Any resources you suggest?

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