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GMoromisato • yesterday at 9:47 PM • 11 replies • view on HN

Imagine you're an alien explorer. You visit Earth 25,000 krugs ago (51,304 Earth-years ago) and see a pretty standard ecological milieu: a wide variety of species, each adapted to its own little environment, no different than it was 50 million krugs before.

You return today and see that one previously unremarkable ape-like species has spread out to all parts of the world and is even orbiting in little tin cans around the planet. Almost all wild terrestrial megafauna is gone and the megafauna that remains is raised by the "humans" in massive farms. They've converted forests and jungles into farms and cities, and they're spending vast amounts of energy to make silicon think.

The fact that aliens have not nuked us from orbit out of sheer panic is, I think, strong evidence that we are alone in the galaxy.


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nitwit005 • today at 12:09 AM

Why would they be surprised? They'll have evolved from some previously unremarkable animal, and presumably have also caused habitat damage.

It's possible we're an extraordinary species somehow, but it's rather more likely we're unremarkable, and the aliens will just think we have particularly bad taste in television.

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0cf8612b2e1e • yesterday at 10:06 PM

Does that strike you as an unusual path for an intelligent species to become space faring? We have yet to unlock the Singularity shortcut that leaves us with replicators and free energy.

I would expect any civilization to exterminate or at least cull the creatures that pose a threat and to cultivate those that are tasty or useful.

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roughly • yesterday at 10:46 PM

Add to that, the previous species you identified as a particularly clever pack animal formed a relationship with the monkeys and now looks like this:

https://thumb.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/200...

At a bare minimum, yeah, you quarantine that whole fucking species.

gcanyon • today at 12:14 AM

For a funny take on this, read With Friends Like These by Alan Dean Foster. Aliens are scared to death of humans, and with good reason. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/35128.With_Friends_Li...

kridsdale1 • yesterday at 9:49 PM

Read Children of Time for a great exploration of this theme.

delecti • yesterday at 11:30 PM

By definition, evolution selects for species that are good at making more of themselves. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that intelligent species tend to overcome that evolutionary tendency to spread fast enough for us to be weird.

rhipitr • today at 1:16 AM

Reminds me of the Simpson’s episode where Lisa grows a society.

starshadowx2 • yesterday at 11:06 PM

Do we really want to make contact with meat?

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MrZander • yesterday at 10:03 PM

Or the aliens did the same thing we did?

nephihaha • yesterday at 11:20 PM

"The fact that aliens have not nuked us from orbit out of sheer panic is, I think, strong evidence that we are alone in the galaxy."

Or they are cybernetic lifeforms and are applauding our current trajectory.

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micromacrofoot • yesterday at 10:05 PM

More likely just not seen yet, our furthest reaching signals are maybe 50 light years away at best... and that's if anyone's looking for the faintest of faint traces.

The Milky Way is 100,000 light years in diameter.

So don't worry, maybe someone will blip us out of existence someday.

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