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Neywiny • yesterday at 10:59 AM • 4 replies • view on HN

My gut reaction is that a hardware implant would be too costly so there's no way they'd actually do that but I guess when you can steal $92M, anything is possible. They could even fab an esoteric chip and still make a profit.


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dannyw • yesterday at 11:38 AM

Why do you think it's too costly? It's well known that there are divisions in DPRK that are focused on generating $ through crypto hacks and compromises.

We're dealing with reasonably sophisticated state actors here in this dark forest; not script kiddies.

Cheap $5 PCB + programmable small FPGA is a very viable route too for hardware implants; but even a microcontroller / ESP32/etc will probably do.

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solyin • yesterday at 11:37 AM

Dangerous things sells implantable chips.

Eg. https://dangerousthings.com/products/apex-flex?Antenna=Narro...

Shank • yesterday at 11:37 AM

PCBWay will make anything you send them for reasonable pricing. Custom boards etc are not at all hard to manufacture, and for the amount of money you can get, of course you can team up with someone. I think the most people overestimate the cost of bespoke PCB creation.

kotaKat • yesterday at 12:45 PM

If you slide through and ignore the writing, the linked implant teardown is wild - https://www.tibane.net/research/ledger-nano-x-implant

They did, in fact, appear to mass-manufacture a custom-built flat flex implant with cellular (LTE-M!), eSIM, and everything that hid right inside the Ledger, sniffing the SPI reads to the display to read the recovery phrases it pukes out and send 'em over cellular to the ringleader.

It's an EXTREMELY well built implant. I'm impressed. Multiple revisions, even.

The money's too hot to not build shit like this and slip it into the stream. Even a few thousand in R&D netting a six figure ROI is worth it, getting millions is just the icing.