> The only thing keeping me alive is the idea of revenge against the people who insult us like this.

Pretty major red flag there. As an awkward, small, unattractive teen I could've related. Yet the best thing was letting it go and finding other people whom I could connect with.

FWIW, social status comes from “interestingness” rather than the pure application of time and money. Anything that is mostly grinding (a few million, muscles, etc) doesn’t clear that threshold. At best it checks a box.

If there isn’t a compelling story behind it, it probably doesn’t convey social status. Poor people with interesting lives often have far more success in the dating market than “successful” people that are indistinguishable from every other successful person. It is less about collecting credentials and more about writing a story that people want to read.

Fortunately, the bar for this is low. Most people have done few interesting things in their entire lives despite abundant opportunity. Many people that have lived interesting lives fail to tell the story. Having time and money expands the kind of story you can write but you still need the courage to live it.

I wish I would have figured this out earlier in my life than I did.

I don't doubt that social media and dating apps may have broken the "market", but if you're living for revenge then women can probably pick up on that.

With a few millions in the bank I'd retire to Asia and live off interests. I guarantee you wouldn't be treated like shit.

It goes both ways.

Guys that do have families are willing to give up a lot too. Things I was never really willing to give up.

I have dated a lot and there is one woman I would have wanted kids with. She wasn't into that with me though.

That is not a problem with the woman, that is a problem with me.

I know a few guys in this same situation. It is not a problem with the dating market, it is a type of narcissism that clouds judgement and sets standards that can't be met.

It is hard to see it in yourself until you get a vasectomy.

I guess it's hard to understand what women want...

CEO could mean no free time to spend with her. Muscular for what? Are you climbing or doing some other interesting sport or just spend time at the gym?

A lot of money, but are you doing something good with it? Helping people? At least some women think that's admirable.

I don't know you personally, so it's just some general vibe I've gotten from your post. No offense, maybe none of this is you but if it is it might be worth thinking about.

The world is large. I will say what I used to say when people complained about how awful dating was pre social media, if you are shopping at a bar, it is like shopping in the gutter, you may find a gem but more often it is shit.

There are alot of women who want kids but they likely are not in the pool you engage with. Go to a conservative US christian state, join a church, engage with the community, it is easy. I bet the issue is that you do in fact have a standard and that standard is the barrier.

If it helps, almost every wealthy man i have known engaged with escorts or prostitutes at some point so I wouldnt view it as shameful and who knows, you may learn something about yourself in the process.

Most people who are saying this to you are in a similar situation like yourself, but with that missing element you have.

If you have money, but they don't, then they think there must be your fault, because if they had money, they wouldn't be in this situation.

If you're muscular, but they're not, then they think if they were muscular, they wouldn't be in this situation.

The biggest insult in the incel community is not someone who gets laid, but that someone is a volcel larping as an incel (purely as an attempt to demoralize them)

I do agree that the dating market is broken, but only men can find a way out of this. And those women want to be saved too, just not the way you think.

I don't think posting like Elliot Rodgers helps, my dude.

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