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HotHotLava • yesterday at 6:30 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

How does it open the door to that? That's literally the argument that was rejected by saying the fair use defense only counts for the legally-acquired media.


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tmtvl • today at 10:51 AM

It's like fan fiction: sneaking into theatre to watch a movie without paying for admission is illegal, but writing fan fiction about the movie and publishing it on AO3 is legal.

opello • yesterday at 11:07 PM

I think I skipped past this part of the article:

> While blocking the piracy of work to train AI

when I read the quote:

> “Like any reader aspiring to be a writer, Anthropic’s LLMs trained upon works not to race ahead and replicate or supplant them — but to turn a hard corner and create something different,”

That's my mistake.

I went back and read the actual opinion, and while I'm disappointed that training an LLM is fair-use transformative, I'm hopeful about a trial on the subject of the pirated copies. But I'm also worried that the argument seems like it might succeed if such training is "one-shot" without the central library or repository of intermediate copies. And that doesn't seem like a good outcome. But maybe my pessimism here is also misplaced.