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kaashiftoday at 4:20 PM3 repliesview on HN

> you just can’t play StarCraft that much better than the best humans

I could not disagree with this more.

Just the perfect micro part means that computers have a far higher ceiling than humans.

No, it is not possible in theory for humans to have perfect micro with thousands of APM!

We're talking about hundred unit zergling swarms perfectly dodging tank shells. Hundreds of APM at multiple locations on the map. Perfect timing and placement for every order.

This is like saying an aimbot wouldn't make a top CS pro much better.


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snovv_crashtoday at 4:27 PM

Having written the AI systems for Robocode bots 15 years ago, they perform at such a higher level than humans that there is no way, given all the time in the world, a human can compete with a full statistical targeting and movement system. We just don't think in that way.

L_226today at 5:08 PM

> We're talking about hundred unit zergling swarms perfectly dodging tank shells.

Exactly the reference I was thinking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKVFZ28ybQs

jrowentoday at 5:19 PM

I think the "you" they refer to there is the hypothetical other skilled human, not a computer. The wording is confusing but I think they're just saying that the human players will reach a ceiling with each other (they then contrast this with real life where the ceiling is always moving). That whole paragraph is a bit muddy with the point it's trying to make.