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4D Doom

271 pointsby chronolituslast Friday at 10:19 PM78 commentsview on HN

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keyletoday at 12:18 AM

It's cool and all and I typically enjoy lowres renditions... unless, it actually impacts gameplay.

Since the gameplay is so much about 4D, clarity in what you see becomes more important and the extremely low resolution actually impairs the player rather than serve a positive (typically 'leaves more to the imagination').

It wouldn't take much of an effort to double or triple the resolution which I think would help the gameplay.

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somatyesterday at 11:15 PM

I just watched the associated dev video And if I understand it, what the author is doing is kind of interesting.

The sensor to see a 3d scene is 2d(eye or camera). What is being done here is simulating a 3d sensor(for a 4d world) then we are looking at this 3d sensor using our 2d sensors (eyes). I don't know if this is the common way of rendering these 4d physics simulations. But it is the first I have heard it described this way. It is also why the narrative of the game focuses on eyes, because that is what it is doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKDMcLW9OnI

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jitltoday at 12:31 AM

I read a novel when I was 14 or so who's premise is all about creatures inhabiting higher-dimensional space called "The Boy Who Reversed Himself" by William Sleator. I loved Sleator's books, they introduced me to really interesting concepts from theoretical physics as a youngun. If you find 4D Doom intriguing, I encourage you to borrow the book from your favorite ebook library, it's a quick fun read (at least, I remember it that way).

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komodo99today at 7:18 PM

interesting, very cool demo, but its not the 4d that hurts my brain and/or soul, its an FPS with an inverted X mouse axis... its like the backwards bike, sure it can be done, but my wiring isn't rigged for that!

Narishmatoday at 4:44 AM

Why does it require WebGPU when it looks like something that would run fine in software on a 386?

gippyesterday at 11:34 PM

The problem with these attempts always seems to be that you can see in dimensions 1-3, but never in dimension 4, so any movement or exploration along that axis is always just blind fumbling. The extra dimension is not equivalent to the others

The only answer would seem to be an extra axis of rotation, but (a) doesnt work well with existing input methods, and (b) would be even more of a brain-breaker

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tenthirtyamtoday at 12:24 PM

I can't play this online (no webgpu) but from the description and comments here it sounds like the 4D Maze from 2002!

https://urticator.net/maze/

The advantage of this one is that it offers a stereoscopic (red/blue) view of the 3D retina. Not sure if this one does too.

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knolanyesterday at 10:05 PM

I found 4D Golf a great game to explore higher dimensional space.

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gray_wolf_99today at 5:07 PM

Its really a cool project, i loved playing doom game in my childhood hood, and i loved this fast paced Action FPP game…. plus the retro looks great,

Hey , did any one played “Total over dose”?

amlibtoday at 5:31 AM

I find it fascinating that it turns into a "descent like" (6dof fps) when using the ability to "peek" the 4th dimension.

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forthactoday at 1:48 AM

If you're on firefox, go to about:config and set dom.webgpu.enabled to "true".

npodbielskitoday at 1:21 PM

Enabling webGPU on Firefox still does not allow it to run. It worked on Chrome but I feels kinda like it was not worth it. Maybe if you could change resolution to something better. And starting every time from the same room, through some conversation with NPC? Feels like I have better things to do.

gloflotoday at 6:27 AM

It's not actually Doom, but a Doom-like.

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MisterTeatoday at 2:54 PM

Perhaps Ive been missing out on the 4D gaming revolution but I do not understand what the 4th dimension is here. Feels like I am missing out on a lot of context.

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dluantoday at 5:54 AM

I feel like now that I'm older, my brain just can't fully understand it say as quickly if I were younger. Makes me wonder if younger more plastic brains can adjust to having to juggle more dimensions than crochety old ones like mine with very rigid 3D grooves baked in. Or brains from other animals.

I guess taken to the logical extreme, what does the brain of someone/thing that's good at playing this (or any game of N dimensions) look like?

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omershapiratoday at 1:54 AM

Shameless plug: Horizon (Before the name got saturated), a 4D third-person game https://youtu.be/R6qTi3TCM2U

Brendinoootoday at 2:29 AM

His dev log linked from GitHub is really neat. Mind-bending stuff.

dalmo3today at 10:11 AM

Reminds me of this 4D minecraft clone:

https://youtu.be/u8LMyWcKL_c?si=XZrCdSSSk9PtpNIP

bstsbyesterday at 10:16 PM

this is visually interesting, but crucially it's also actually fun to play.

i managed to kill three enemies before succumbing to my fate

DoctorMacArthurtoday at 4:03 PM

Cant wait to see ZeroMaster speedrun this

xnxyesterday at 11:31 PM

Better title: HYPERHELL, 4-Dimensional DOOM-Like

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scordatayesterday at 9:34 PM

This is an awesome experience. Very useful tool to get exposure to thinking in "higher" dimensions!

danbrucyesterday at 10:31 PM

Now waiting since 16 years for the release of Miegakure [1][2][3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miegakure

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yW--eQaA2I

[3] https://xkcd.com/721/

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ameliustoday at 7:37 AM

At least project it onto a 3D screen.

razorbeamztoday at 6:48 AM

The AI generated logo image is a very big put-off.

superxpro12yesterday at 9:12 PM

Ok... he was right. It broke my brain.

braelynyesterday at 10:44 PM

that was incredibly cool

saberienceyesterday at 10:32 PM

That's not 4D

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