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amir_karbasiyesterday at 10:03 PM6 repliesview on HN

Actually, in Persian, tomato is literally translated as “western plum”. This is common in our language as we usually say “western” or “foreign” as a prefix to many things that were introduced to Iran (strawberries, sit-style toilets, etc)


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xattttoday at 12:43 AM

As an aside, tomatoes are golden apples (pomodoro), and oranges are Chinese apples (Apfelsin) in some languages.

A lot of cultures appear to name botanicals using apples or, in GP’s context, stone fruit as “reference” points.

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thrdbndndntoday at 1:07 AM

Chinese does the same thing, using prefixes like 西 (western), 番 (foreign), and 洋 (foreign) for introduced items.

For tomatoes, interestingly, it has two common names that follow this pattern: 西紅柿, literally translated as "Western Red Persimmon", and 番茄, literally translated as "Foreign Eggplant".

Other produce examples include 番薯 (Foreign Yam) for sweet potato, 西瓜 (Western Melon) for watermelon, 洋蔥 (Foreign Onion) for bulb onion etc.

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riffraffyesterday at 10:30 PM

Interesting, in various European languages those tend to be "Turkish": turkey hens (the bird called turkey now), Turkish corn (maize), Turkish beans (long beans).

Again, trade routes.

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erutoday at 6:38 AM

Austrians call tomatoes Paradeiser, from an older word for Paradise.

bitwizetoday at 7:33 AM

There is a bird native to the Americas which in English is called the turkey, from its original name "Turkey fowl", because it was thought to come from "the east" of which Türkiye is the country with which most Europeans were familiar (due to being the closest). In Turkish, the bird's name references India ("hindi"); the same is true of other languages such as French ("dinde", from "poule d'inde", chicken of India).

alephnerdyesterday at 10:23 PM

Appreciate the clarification!

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